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Cyberways: Welcome! Have questions about what it takes to write a successful screenplay? How do you make characters interesting or create believable dialogue? Wonder what you should be doing now to prosper in the future as a screenwriter?
Cyberways: Now you can chat with screenwriter Bill Broyles to get the inside scoop on what it really takes to write a produce-able script.
Cyberways: The chat is about to begin. Start sending your questions now and prepare to explore the world of screenwriting, Hollywood, and the path to become a successful screenplay writer.
Bill Broyles: I'm very glad to be here, and I look forward to everyone's questions!
John: Who was your favorite character when writing "Planet of the Apes"?
Bill Broyles: I was very partial to Thade, who was the villain. It's always more fun to write villains!
Dolly: The scene in "Apollo 13" where they first realize they are in trouble, even though we knew it was coming, still was very intense and reached the public well. How do you personally find that emotion in you?
Bill Broyles: Well, it was an interesting problem because the public did know the crew made it back safely, so the challenge was to create characters in the movie - that is the family and the mission controllers who did NOT know - so the audience could identify with their fears for the crew. As for me, I've been far away from home before, when I was in Vietnam, and that sense of loneliness is what I drew on to try to create the feeling of the men in the space capsule.
Ron: What gave you the idea to use a soccer ball, of all the things that would have possibly been available on an island?
Bill Broyles: The character Wilson is my favorite character I've ever done. He's actually a volleyball. I did research in Mexico on the Sea of Cortez for the movie "Cast Away" and after I had learned to make fire (and believe me, it's harder even than it looks in the movie!), after I had caught fish and made shelter I realized that physical survival wasn't the deepest challenge; it was emotional survival. The loneliness was the key element. The next morning I got up and went down to the beach and a volleyball had washed up on the shore. I put some seaweed and sea shells on it, and started calling it by its name, which was of course Wilson. And that made it directly into the movie.
Xena: "Cast Away" was a movie that you had to be able to carry on a conversation with "self." Did you find yourself actually talking to yourself to test if it would work for the movie?
Bill Broyles: Of course I talk to myself all the time - I'm the only one who will listen to me sometimes! For Tom Hanks I wrote what Wilson would be saying, so that Tom could respond, even though the audience never heard Wilson say a word. To me this is the crux of the movie, which is that we as human beings are social creatures. We have to connect, even if it is to a volleyball.
Darlene: Since "Apollo 13" was historic, how did you feel personally about writing about that history?
Bill Broyles: I think historic topics can be very moving, because the audience can identify with real characters. It makes the research interesting also, because I get to talk to astronauts and mission controllers - the people who worked on the project. It was talking to one of those mission controllers, who said "Failure is not an option" and I asked "Could you say that again please, so I can write it down?" and that line made it directly into the movie.
Lorry: How did you become an editor?
Bill Broyles: I was the editor of "Texas Monthly" and I got the job because I started the magazine. No one would have hired me otherwise. I loved writing, and I loved reading, and I loved Texas. And there was no job for me, so I had to make one.
Sam: How long does it take you to write a screenplay?
Bill Broyles: "Cast Away" took seven years. Longer than Chuck was on his island. "Apollo 13" took two years. "Planet of the Apes" less than a year. It varies from movie to movie; there's no set formula. How long it takes depends on a lot of things. When the stars and directors are available. When the script fits their idea of the movie they want to make. When I feel I'm finished. And when the studio is ready to pay the money to make the movie. My basic rule as a writer is: Don't be too easily satisfied. Every writer wants to be finished writing. Every draft I write I think "this is wonderful, it's done, I don't need to change a word." And then I sit down and rewrite it. I did over 100 drafts of "Cast Away."
Sonny: When were you first published? How old were you?
Bill Broyles: Let me think...I first wrote for the Rice Thresher, the student university at Rice University in Houston when I was 19. I wrote for the university paper at Oxford where I graduated, and I wrote for the now-defunct Houston Post, between Rice and Oxford.
Austin Writer: Are you aware of or are you involved in any sort of mentoring- or apprenticeship-type programs for aspiring screenwriters?
Bill Broyles: Every year I participate in the Austin Film Festival, which is a festival unique in the movie business in that it is centered around screenwriters. It happens every year in Austin in October, and I would recommend anyone interested in screenwriting to check it out. I personally from time to time mentor other screenwriters, mainly people in my own family, and people I know.
Tammy: In a previous chat, Mike Rich talked about how winning the Nicholl Fellowship helped him get his screenplay "Finding Forrester" produced. Do you suggest a similar strategy?
Bill Broyles: There are so many ways to get a screenplay made, and so many, many more ways for it not to get made. Entering contests can be a good idea. Finding other people who will read it and pass it on is a good idea. Entering festivals is a very good way to start. You want to get people to read it; that is the challenge.
Matt: Have you ever used a script doctor or consultant? If so, can you share who?
Bill Broyles: Actually, I have not, although for years my assistant, Sheila Gallien, was my first reader, which means she read every word I wrote and offered constructive criticism. She now has her own script consulting business, which I will plug here, and she is excellent. Her internet address is sgallien@earthlink.net, or you can learn more at www.sheilagallien.com .
Luke Hill: I am an Austin, TX resident and have tried to convince certain screenwriters to help me with their insight on the craft of screenwriting in exchange for my acting as their apprentice (I even wrote a letter to you recently), but have had no luck finding anyone who is willing to help. In what ways would you suggest an aspiring screenwriter go about finding someone successful?
Bill Broyles: I think you shouldn't give up very easily, but you have to remember screenwriters are very private people. Their work is very solitary, and we tend to be solitary as well. I have used several interns, but it only works when I have a great deal of research to do, which I don't right now. I think the best thing is to just read a lot of books, go to a lot of movies, and try to find people who will read your scripts from your own peer group. The best support group for me is a group of people who write, and we all read each other's work. Again I recommend the Austin Film Festival as a great place to hear and meet a concentrated group of screenwriters.
Tammy: How does screenwriting differ from other dramatic writing, such as writing novels, plays, poetry?
Bill Broyles: Excellent question! A novel has no set form. A screenplay is more like a sonnet, which is three quatrains followed by a couplet. In other words, it has a set structure. Novels can be 500 words or 1000 words, but every screenplay has to be 120 pages. It has to have a beginning, a middle and an end, and it works best if it follows the tried-and-true 3-act structure. In this regard it is more a craft than an art. I means the art has to fit within a form.
Joe9: How long does it usually take you to write a screenplay from idea to final draft and ready for the studio?
Bill Broyles: It takes a varying amount of time, and you never finish. There's an old saying that a movie is written three times - once by the writer, once by the director when he shoots, and once by the editor when he edits it. On "Cast Away" I wrote the last scene a week before its premiere.
Matias: Do you think the events of September 11 will affect the film industry? And how did they affect you?
Bill Broyles: I hope that it would mean the kind of mindless violence that treated death and destruction as screen devices for entertainment...I would hope that filmmakers would think twice before they did that again. The most common comment I heard after September 11 was "It looked just like a movie." As a screenwriter I was deeply embarrassed by that. I think we are all affected personally by knowing how small the world is, and what an unsafe place it can be. I think we should make movies that encourage us to reach out to each other, and not to run and hide.
Writer 4 ever: If you were stuck on a desert island (and it had power), what three movies would you want and what three books would you take?
Bill Broyles: That's a great question! The three movies I would take would be "Lawrence of Arabia" because it's simply the best movie ever made. I would take "Tootsie" because it makes me laugh, and I would need some laughs. And I would take "Raiders of the Lost Ark" because it's the best escape movie, and I would want to escape. I wouldn't take "Cast Away" because it's a little too close to home. As for books, my three favorite books are "A Farewell to Arms" by Ernest Hemmingway, "Madame Bovary" and "Huckleberry Finn." I read them every every couple of years or so, and am never bored. They are like old friends.
Daniel Paul: How do you approach violence in developing your screenplays?
Bill Broyles: That's another very good question. I have not written a lot of violence, "Planet of the Apes" being the exception, but that violence is within the conventions of science fiction. Having been in a real war, and shot real bullets at real people, and had them shoot back at me, I do not take violence lightly. It's not a cartoon or for titillation or entertainment. On the other hand, it is and has been a part of human life. I think if and when it is used, it should above all be shown to have consequences. It hurts. People suffer. People feel deep guilt. It's not something I think should be dealt with lightly. I'm working on a World War II movie now, called "Flags of Our Fathers" with Steven Spielberg, who made "Saving Private Ryan," probably the best visual portrayal of war violence ever done. We're trying to show in this new movie how being part of that kind of violence affects the survivors forever.
Maria Davis9: Do you have any tips for aspiring writers?
Bill Broyles: I have several tips! First is: read. I have met many writers who don't want to read. If you don't read, you can't write. Read the masters; they will show you the way. I learned more about screenwriting from reading "Madame Bovary" than from watching 100 movies
Bill Broyles: Second is: learn something about the world. Don't study writing, study English or science or math or medicine, or psychology or business or law. I could go on and on. Something that gives you a way of looking at the world and understanding how it works.
Bill Broyles: Three: Write what you know. By that I don't mean just your own life, but I mean if you're going to write "Cast Away" go sit on a beach by yourself, and learn what it's like. That's always better than trying to make it up.
Bill Broyles: And the fourth is: Try to get a peer group of writers and friends who write, and share your work with each other. The hardest thing about writing is to look at your own work objectively, without being in love with it.
Jillian: What are the standard procedures for submitting screenplays? I understand that studios do not look at unsolicited scripts, so I suppose that means they must be submitted to agents. Is this true?
Bill Broyles: There are no hard and fast rules. I would recommend going to the Writers Guild website (I believe it's wga.com). They have a list of TV shows that will accept unsolicited manuscripts. I started writing for "China Beach" which I helped create. I learned more about screenwriting in a practical sense writing for television. There are also magazines about writing that offer suggestions about how to submit scripts and manuscripts.
Bill Broyles: The hardest thing is to make the connection. I don't pretend to be able to offer good advice on it. The only way I got to write was to be able to come up with my own TV show. It was just like Texas Monthly. Nobody would look at my writing, so I had to start something, and give myself a job.
Ally Cat: Hi Bill, I'd like your opinion on this one. What qualities do you think make a good director? A good producer?
Bill Broyles: Oh! Another good question! A good director has to be able to give two years of his or her life to a movie. To be able to answer every conceivable question about every conceivable thing, from the script to the wardrobe, to the color of the car, at a moment's notice. They have to be both inspiring and decisive. They don't necessarily have to know every technical thing; they just have to be devoted to making every shot as good as it can possibly be. The one quality many directors lack is a sense of storytelling. The best directors use all of their technical ability to tell stories.
Bill Broyles: A producer has to have a sense of humility, because a producer gets all of the blame, and none of the credit. But no producer, no movie. They're the ones that bring everybody together. In television this is all different. In television the writers tell the directors what to do. As a writer, this makes TV very enjoyable! Every writer wants to tell the director "Just shoot what's on the page, and get on with it." In TV you can do that. The best projects come about when the writer, director, producer and cast all have the same vision. So someone in that group has to be dedicated to making that happen.
Jillian: Do script agents follow essentially the same rules as other literary agents, or is there something I need to be aware of in my dealings with them?
Bill Broyles: I don't know what all the rules are. I do know what integrity is, and most script agents I have dealt with have a lot of it, because their reputation rests on it. Most of my work is done by oral agreement. The contracts take weeks to catch up, and usually I'm well into working on something before I actually sign something. I do not recommend this - I think it's very important to have everything signed and worked out before the work is done. And to make sure the check clears the bank! Some people have an attorney look over their film contracts, and that's not a bad idea. On the whole, however, I've found people in the movie business, despite their reputation, to be more trustworthy than just about any other business I've been in.
Larry: My cousin was a Marine in Vietnam so I a special interest in "Brothers in Arms." What was the toughest aspect of writing that book and what are your thoughts now on the Vietnam war?
Bill Broyles: "Brothers in Arms" was a book I wrote about my return to Vietnam 15 years after I fought there, to try to find the men and women I had fought against - the human beings behind those muzzle flashes winking at me in the night. It was extremely rewarding to meet them, and to see my enemies as human beings. The most powerful weapon in war is not a tank or a jet or a gun, it's the finger that pulls the trigger. We do that because we see our enemies as less than human, and they see us the same way. I wanted to see my old enemies as real people, and have them see me. That was very difficult because it stirred up a lot of memories, but it was extremely rewarding as well. The Vietnamese I fought against and I found we had more in common with each other than with almost anyone else we knew, so the trip was a way for me finally to put the war to rest.
Larry: Is it tougher writing about a subject as personal as Vietnam or a fantasy like "Planet of the Apes"?
Bill Broyles: Oh, it's much tougher to write about something personal, if that personal experience has been a painful one. It's fun to write about personal experiences that are enjoyable. "Planet of the Apes" was a hoot for me, because I could just let my imagination run free. As it happened, Tim Burton the director let his imagination run free too, and his imagination went in some different directions than mine had. We'll let the viewer decide if that was a good thing.
Corey Scripter: Do you have any exciting stories you want to share with us about your time as an editor at Newsweek?
Bill Broyles: Newsweek! That's the deep, dark past! It's a very different world than Texas Monthly. It's sort of the difference between having a small platoon in war, and being the Secretary of Defense. You feel more distant from the work of the magazine. The people who work there are extremely talented, but the amount of space is very limited. So whenever there is a high ratio of talent to space, as in news magazines, TV news and so on, you get bitter office politics. However, I had some good times there, and enjoyed having so much access to whatever was going on in the world. We were the first major magazine to put AIDS on the cover, for example, back in 1982 I think. And it's fun to be part of the daily rush of events, but it's extremely hard work. 80-100 hours a week. You're really never off duty.
Larry: I heard it said that on "Planet of the Apes" you felt what you wrote and what was actually edited and shown was very different. Is that true? And what are the difficulties in being a screenwriter versus say a novelist?
Bill Broyles: To the first part of the question, yes that's true. I had written a much more subtle and philosophical movie. Tim Burton was more interested in doing more of a stylish cartoon. A lot of people really liked it. I thought he did a good job with what he wanted to do. I was sad to see so much of the depth and wonder I had written get lost. The second part of the question...the joy of being a screenwriter is that when it goes well, you have millions of people sharing your work, as on "Cast Away" and "Apollo 13," and it is work you are really proud of. In other words, you have a chance to reach an audience with the most powerful medium ever invented. On the other hand, you have to collaborate with so many people that it's hard to see it as your work. With a novel it's all you. You don't have to take advice, good or bad (and sometimes the good advice is worse), and chances are you won't reach much of an audience. So it's a trade-off of control and size of audience for me. I enjoy both. I love the creative control of a novel, but it's a very lonely process. I love the collaboration of working in film when it's going well.
RIchard: Bill, thank you for taking the time to chat with us. Will "Tom Harris" be your first western, and how do you approach preparing/researching a western movie versus say "Apollo 13"?
Bill Broyles: "Tom Harris"! You guys are really up on things! "Tom Harris" is a western script I've been working on for years now. Michael Mann was about to direct it, but he made "The Insider" instead. We have been in discussions to rewrite it again to work with some major movie stars, and I hope it gets made in the next couple of years. The research was different in that a lot of it had to be done from books, since I can't go back to be a 19th C. cowboy. I grew up on westerns, and part of what I do in movies is write what I want to see myself. I would LOVE to see a great western. I think the technical abilities of film now would make a western just awesome, and I hope to get a chance to see if that's true. A lot of the themes of a western are similar to "Cast Away" and "Apollo 13," which are: Who am I, where do I fit in, how do I get home, and a small individual set in the vastness of nature or space.
Ally Cat: What are the key differences between 'studio' and 'independent' film production?
Bill Broyles: Remember when I said "be sure the check clears the bank"? With studios you know the check is going to clear. With independent production it's more like Texas Monthly. You have more freedom, and it can be a lot more fun. The more a movie costs, the more terrified are the people who are paying for it, and the more their panic can affect the quality of the film.
Mauriece Jones: What's your favorite movie, of all time, and currently showing?
Bill Broyles: My favorite movie of all time is "Lawrence of Arabia." My favorite movie currently showing is "Unfaithful" which I co-wrote. I also like "The Rookie" which your previous guest Mike Rich wrote. My favorite movie of the last year was "Shrek."
Suzanne: Without being too politically correct, how is Tom Hanks to work with and how is he as a person?
Bill Broyles: Well, we've worked on 2 movies that have been filmed, and 2 more that are in the works. He is terrific to work with. He has no vanity (as you can tell from "Cast Away"). He is totally dedicated to making the best possible movie. He is a nice guy, but to call him just that is to diminish the complexity of his personality. He is very funny and competitive, and just a guy's guy. He's the kind of guy you would go bowling with, or go down a river with, or just hang out with. He's as normal a guy as any movie star could possibly be.
Larry: Thanks Bill, I really enjoyed Gary Cartwright's recent article on you in Texas Monthly. Was it accurate? What did you think about it?
Bill Broyles: I thought he did a really good job. The older you get the less you enjoy seeing all of your past put in one place, but Gary did a terrific job. My mother liked the article, which means it had to be great!
Carlos: What did you mean when you said "writing a novel has restored my creative humility"?
Bill Broyles: Just that it's very hard. It's hard to do anything good, it's hard even to make a bad movie. A lot of times you don't know you're making something bad while you're doing it. I've always wanted to write novels, and I'm finding it difficult to do, but that's the fun of it.
Steph: Gary's article mentioned your career going from the highs of running Newsweek to the lows of sitting in alone in a hotel lobby, what is your advice for us that are struggling through rough times in our writing careers, or careers in general?
Bill Broyles: Failure makes you stronger. Beware of success because it makes you cautious. Don't give up because, as Chuck says in "Cast Away," "Tomorrow the sun will rise, and who knows what the tide will bring."
Suzanne: If you could have worked with any of the movie directors in the first 50 years of the movie industry who would they be and why?
Bill Broyles: I would have loved to have worked with John Ford or David Lean, but Howard Hawks would have been the most fun. He did every genre there was and directed some of my favorite movies; that would have been a kick. But today I love working with Robert Zemeckis and Ron Howard - there are a lot of great directors out there. And I left out Billy Wilder. He would have been fun too.
Cyberways: Bill, thank you so much for joining us. Unfortunately the time is up. Do you have any parting remarks you would like to share with our audience before we finish?
Bill Broyles: Thanks to everyone, and I really enjoyed it!
Cyberways: Unfortunately we're out of time. Thank you for joining in this fascinating discussion! Thank you Bill for sharing screenwriting tips and your own path to becoming a successful screenwriter.
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